Recorded over the phone from home, Laurin takes Carla to his university SOAS (School of Oriental and African Studies). They talk about the history of the school as a home base for colonial Britain, and how its values completely changed within a century now attracting activists from across the world. Laurin and Carla also talk about the harmfulness of dogmatic views that can be found in all parts of society, and they reveal what topics they are most passionate about.

Question to the vicar: What did your parents say when you decided to study theology?

Podcast: Recording and editing by Laurin Reding and Carla Maurer; music and production by Julian Simmons

Organ music: Jürg Brunner, "Er weckt mich alle Morgen" performed by Peter Yardley-Jones; recorded by Julian Simmons.

Laurin and Carla take you on a walk along the river Thames to Butler’s Wharf, South-East London. They talk about the history of the Docklands, the Dockland Museum, their favourite markets in London and the TV series ‘Call the midwife’ which is set in London’s East End. You will also hear why it has become much easier in recent years to eat a Swiss cheese fondue in London.

Question to the vicar: Why does the church always get involved with politics? Does it not have anything else to do?

Music: Die Güldne Sonne, Gael Liardon
Played by Peter Yardley-Jones; recorded by Julian Simmons.

Carla and Laurin take you to Greyfriars, a derelict church ruin just around the corner from St Paul’s Cathedral. They talk about the reformation in England, the Great Fire of London in 1666 and the Blitzkrieg during the Second World war that has also affected members of the Swiss Church in London.

Question to the vicar: Do you believe in God?

Music: Toccata Festival, Fredrik Sixten
Played by Peter Yardley-Jones; recorded by Julian Simmons